It was working fine, NOW I'M BANNED!

[yeshuawatso]

I'm not sure what happened, but I was suddenly banned from the list. I have followed all the rules that I have seen and read all over the net. Can someone at least give me a reason why I was banned? Is it related to this post: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....14#post1843214

WTF? I have far more than 30 minutes of video. My server was set to allow only the ammount of individuals that can be allowed on my connection: 21 @ 64kbps. Does it matter if I set a time limit to the listeners to 20 mins? I mean they just can't hog the server forever. What is going on?

ip: 24.248.199.100

[Germ]

Ban reason for 24.248.199.* was that it was oversubscribed.

[B0b]

Re: It was working fine, NOW I'M BANNED!

Originally posted by yeshuawatso
21 @ 64kbps

This would require at least 1.4 Mbps in upstream. Most cable connections have far less than that.

7. Excessively full stations which are mis-configured for the type of connection they reside can also be banned.

[yeshuawatso]

Ok that makes since however we are running on a symetrical 1.5 connection for businesses. The station supported the 21 people fine with an extra 200kbps because our Cox tech set the connection settings to max out at 1.7mbps

[B0b]

Originally posted by yeshuawatso
The station supported the 21 people fine

No it didn't, otherwise it would not have been banned for being oversubscribed.

[rockouthippie]

You will find that Winamps estimation of your true bandwidth is an underestimation. My stream shows 200 or so kbps, but that can actually be up to about 300.

You have to remember that average bandwidth is not the issue. These codecs are variable bitrate and you have to account for that.

From experience, a 30% margin is probably a good estimate.

[yeshuawatso]

A 30% margin is about 450kbps from what I am paying for. leaving me at 1 meg even. SO may it be a fair question to ask can my IP be de-banned. This way I can set and leave my stream at a far lower bandwith (I figured the only way to prevent bans is to set the max to far less than what your connection can support. If they want to be put on the "allowed forever" list they will just have to contact me.) I really would like my subnet unbanned so that I will be able to roll out more variety and different streams as time (and funds) progress. (and I'm not talking about mire adult video).

[Jeeper One]

Hi everyone:

Originally posted by rockouthippie
You will find that Winamps estimation of your true bandwidth is an underestimation. My stream shows 200 or so kbps, but that can actually be up to about 300.

Being the (somewhat for Internet TV that is ) faithful viewer of WebRanger TV, I can tell you for a fact Kevin that it usually is in upwards of 300 Kbps.

My station is listed as being 200 Kbps., which is right around where it should be considering that my upload speed is around 384 Kbps. (if not a tad higher) last time I checked. And I stream two radio stations via SHOUTcast (one of which actually gets listeners ) to boot!

You have to remember that average bandwidth is not the issue. These codecs are variable bitrate and you have to account for that.

Video alone (i.e. without the audio) is, by its very nature, variable bitrate. As such, you need to allow a little extra room for overhead.

Not only that, but the higher your upload speed is, the more bandwidth you need for overhead. This holds true for not only NSV, but for anything you do on the Internet.

From experience, a 30% margin is probably a good estimate.

I'd probably agree there, though like I said above...

Just my $.02 worth

Cheers for now

Pat (a.k.a. Jeeper One)