Quinto Black CT - New Winamp Modern skin

[Aminifu]

Looks cool except the right margin which is too wide compared to the left one.

Is your OCD acting up? The text is not perfectly centered in the current notifier either. Does it need to be?

Did you change your mind and added album art?

Reread post #42 above.

[PeterK.]

Ariszló is totally right. Those text lines on the Notifier are not aligned properly.

The cause for that glitch is Bento's notifier script, which I implemented in my skin and which, as Ariszló should know, was coded for text alignment next to the cover (hence left) and not in the middle. The exact same file is also responsible for the size of the Notifier and placement of those text lines (artist, title, album etc).

I meanwhile managed to have perfect text alignment while displaying notifications with a cover. Too bad that notifications with missing album art cover are broken now. And at this moment I really would not know how to fix both of them.

I definitely will have a look at these lines in Bento's script but cannot promise perfect aligned notification lines.

[ariszlo]

Editing these lines in notifier.m may give the desired results:

w = w + 30; // Line 356

if (g_text) g_text.setXmlParam("x", "75"); // Lines 786-787 for notifier with albumart
if (g_text) g_text.setXmlParam("w", "-95");

if (g_text) g_text.setXmlParam("x", "15"); // Lines 792-793 for no albumart
if (g_text) g_text.setXmlParam("w", "-35");

return maxv + ( showAlbumArt * 60 ) + 1; // Line 819

[PeterK.]

A note regarding the vertical slide option in Notifications context menu.

Upon further testing I realized that this particular feature does not work properly. Two scenarios would always trigger the Notifier to just pop in on the desktop instead of moving it vertically:

1) Fresh Winamp start
2) double click on a song in the Playlist Editor

and

1) click on the EJECT button (open file)
2) double click on a playlist file in the Open/Save Dialog Box.

Deleting or even commenting out these vertical slide options from the context menu would mean deleting many lines within the notifier script file which could cause another glitches and which I really would like to avoid. Hence I am going to leave it as it is. As for now I do not recommend using it.

The default setting while running Quinto's coming release 1.2 will obviously be the ALPHA option, which has never caused any troubles whatsoever.

[PeterK.]

... The text is not perfectly centered in the current notifier either. Does it need to be? ...

No, it does not but it should be.

Looking better now?








I will also cancel Bento's width limitation for the Notifier which means you will get the entire title/artist/album text line on your notification display.


P.S. Is there still such thing as AOL Radio?

[ariszlo]

Looking better now?

Much better! My ocd is pleased.

P.S. Is there still such thing as AOL Radio?

I don't think there is but it does not hurt to keep the code. It just won't be used.

[Aminifu]

A note regarding the vertical slide option in Notifications context menu.

Upon further testing I realized that this particular feature does not work properly. Two scenarios would always trigger the Notifier to just pop in on the desktop instead of moving it vertically:

1) Fresh Winamp start
2) double click on a song in the Playlist Editor

and

1) click on the EJECT button (open file)
2) double click on a playlist file in the Open/Save Dialog Box.

Deleting or even commenting out these vertical slide options from the context menu would mean deleting many lines within the notifier script file which could cause another glitches and which I really would like to avoid. Hence I am going to leave it as it is. As for now I do not recommend using it.

The default setting while running Quinto's coming release 1.2 will obviously be the ALPHA option, which has never caused any troubles whatsoever.

Strange, I've noticed that all the notifier options work in the Big Bento skin. They continue to work as they were set there (including the vertical slide) after switching to this skin.

I normally use the horizontal slide in and alpha fade out (at the top center of my monitor) for all the skins in my collection that use a Bento-based notifier. I just checked with the skin I use most often (listed in my signature below) and the vertical slide option doesn't work in it either. However, switching to Big Bento to select it and then switching back causes it to work.

I also see in the current version of your skin that it is not possible to select different fade in and fade out options. Whatever is selected for one is automatically applied to the other. Did you fix that?

The Bento-based notifier options (that Winamp applies to all such notifiers) are written to a common area in the "studio.xnf" file (in the Winamp folder in your user's data folder). Since this is working correctly in Big Bento, it appears that something in your and Victhor's skins are writing (or causing Winamp to write) an alpha fade to "studio.xnf" when vertical slide is selected.

P.S.
Great job on your notifier text alignment for the next version.

[PeterK.]

Strange, I've noticed that all the notifier options work in the Big Bento skin. They continue to work as they were set there (including the vertical slide) after switching to this skin.

Yes, this is also correct while running Quinto. After the first non-correct-movement the second and third click on a song would make the Notifier move vertically. So strange indeed.

However, switching to Big Bento to select it and then switching back causes it to work.

Another yes. The whole vertical movement of the Notifier in my skin seemed to work a little bit "unstable".

I also see in the current version of your skin that it is not possible to select different fade in and fade out options. Whatever is selected for one is automatically applied to the other. Did you fix that?

Yes indeed I did fix it. Thank you for mentioning.

... it appears that something in your and Victhor's skins are writing (or causing Winamp to write) an alpha fade to "studio.xnf" when vertical slide is selected.

No Aminifu, this is not the reason why we get this bug. The Notifier would also just pop in on the desktop after deletion of the studio file.
The reason why the Notifier won't slide vertically lies in the notifier.m file.

As you probably remember not only Quinto uses Bento's notifier script but also the OpenSource-Notifier project. And we both (Ariszló and I) could not stop wondering why this feature would work so smoothly in Bento while it makes Notifier just pops in on the desktop in non-Bento skins. So we contacted the creator of those script files and asked for a hint. Martin, as usually, said only once sentence:

"Replace the y parameter with sy in the line 432"

So from:

notifier_layout.resize(notifier_layout.getguiX(), y, notifier_layout.getGuiW(), 80); 

into:

notifier_layout.resize(notifier_layout.getguiX(), sy, notifier_layout.getGuiW(), 80); 

And this is it!
I have been running all possible Fade In/Fade Out constellations since two days and can confirm that this has finally fixed this bug.
(Finger crossed )

Great job on your notifier text alignment for the next version.

I am also happy I finally got it right.

[Aminifu]

...

And this is it!
I have been running all possible Fade In/Fade Out constellations since two days and can confirm that this has finally fixed this bug.
(Finger crossed )

That's great! I can stop switching to Bento to setup the notifier options for this skin.

The solution reminds me of when I was writing assembly code many years ago. Issues like this would keep me up nights. I couldn't rest until I found out what was wrong.

[PeterK.]

There is a glitch in the "Now Playing" option of the MediaLibrary window. The scrollbars and their background get gray/white while running Quinto on a Windows 10 machine:




Everything's fine here on a Windows XP desktop:




In order to be sure that this issue is not Quinto-related I fired up Bento and got exactly the same result:

[Aminifu]

I see the same thing. Winamp uses code from Windows (pieces of Internet Explorer) to provide it's internal internet browsing features. I believe the Windows browser code is the cause of this, but I'm probably wrong. I have Edge, Internet Explorer, and Vivaldi installed in my Windows 10 OS.

Anyway, I had disabled the plug-in that provides the "Now Playing" feature. It used an AOL server (unless you provide the address of another in the plug-in's configuration options) to provide internet based info on the playing song. The AOL server had stopped working and I don't know of an URL for another.

[PeterK.]

I see the same thing....

So let's move it to the Known-Bugs-Cabinet.

There is a small additional option in the Notification context menu which will allow you to set a fixed time for Notifier's appearance on the desktop. The time range is 1, 3 and 5 seconds which should be perfectly sufficient for that task.



Notifier's default settings while running Quinto for the first time will be:

Location: Bottom Center
FadeIn Effect: Alpha Fade
FadeOut Effect: Alpha Fade

FadeInTime: 1 second
HoldTime: 3 seconds
FadeOutTime: 1 second

After the first run you may change the values to your liking.

I chose the very simple expression "Time" for the name since it is translated into other languages and pretty understandable for that purpose. All three Time context menu options are translated as well. Only the "sec" strings are going to stay that way because there is no "sec" or "seconds" term in the translation table unlike the others names.

[Aminifu]

...

Notifier's default settings while running Quinto for the first time will be:

Location: Bottom Center
FadeIn Effect: Alpha Fade
FadeOut Effect: Alpha Fade

FadeInTime: 1 second
HoldTime: 3 seconds
FadeOutTime: 1 second

After the first run you may change the values to your liking.

...

Thank you for the heads up. My times are set for 2.5, 7.5, and 2.5 seconds. It is fortunate, for me, that these and the other options for Quinto Black CT's notifier can be set in other skins.

[PeterK.]

It is fortunate, for me, that these and the other options for Quinto Black CT's notifier can be set in other skins.

This won't (probably) work because my skin uses different hash values for Notifier's submenu

I just set holdtime to 7500ms using scotsman's skin and switched to Quinto. After 3 seconds the Notifier was gone. (as set in script file). So we will need another way to give you your 2.5 and 7.5 seconds.

[Aminifu]

This won't (probably) work because my skin uses different hash values for Notifier's submenu

...

We'll see when I'm able to test the new version. Worst case, I'll just have to adjust to what is available. I really like the upgrades you've made to Quinto.