Big Bento Modern Beta 0.93

[gdhm]

Although I have frequently kept up with the Winamp Forum I have not posted in a couple of years (I think) as nothing of value to add. After many years of usage, Winamp is still my favourite music player and I have never found any substitute worthy of changing my mind.

I have just downloaded Victhor's Beta offering of "big_bento_modern_0.9_by_victhor.zip" skin and having played with it for only some 20 minutes, I felt compelled to break my over long silence and comment regarding it.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, VICTHOR - I Really REALLY Love it!

It looks really great on my 1920 x1080 (24 inch) display and is it is now my Default skin of choice. I find it very easy to navigate and set my desired layout. All my desired pieces of information are displayed in the skin. The large clear Song display Scrolling (when long) bar is superb and is also great for my Thai wife who can easily see her Thai script song titles.

Once again many, many thanks Victhor.
Kind Regards

[PeterK.]

... When you can, please look inside the .m file and see if you can find why the "IF" condition is not working on the System.onstop part.

Well, let's see. This is the System.onStop() function in your script file:

System.onStop(){

//This "IF" is not working, it does DoAniStuff anyway (Winamp bug?)

if(System.getStatus() == STATUS_PAUSED){
AnimationPlayPause.gotoFrame(0);
}
else{
DoAniStuff(AnimationPlayPause, 15, 0, 50, 0);
}

PlayButton.show();
PauseButton.hide();

}

Question: what happens when a user clicks on the STOP button and the System.onStop() function is executed? The visible effect of that action is that the playback is stopped. More importantly for us is the invisible effect which is that Winamp changes the STATUS instantly! This would mean that ....


System.onStop(){ here is the STATUS already STOPPED!



... and thus all following IF conditions are, unfortunately, useless here. For the STATUS is not PAUSED and the else line is not read. And the DoAniStuff function in here is not responsible for the actual execution of the Animated Layer. I changed the function to:

System.onStop()
{
AnimationPlayPause.goToFrame(0);
PlayButton.show();
PauseButton.hide();
}

and you still get the animation running.

[Victhor]

I got it Vic! I know why the IF condition does not work. More details later this evening.

Cool, I'm looking at it right now, I think your last post is not the right one* but the others are really opening my mind =). Hold on a bit, I feel the answer lies there...


* I ask you to look into animbutton.m just to see the function as an example of what is not working, but the animation itself is comprised by 2 animations on separate layers, so what you may see is working is the other animation (animbutton_main.m) being played.

[PeterK.]

...by 2 animations on separate layers, so what you may see is working is the other animation (animbutton_main.m) being played.

Yes, I noticed there is one which changes its looks from PLAY sign to PAUSE sign (and vice versa) and the second one is the RING changing its colors. Right?

[Victhor]

Yes, I noticed there is one which changes its looks from PLAY sign to PAUSE sign and the second one is the RING changing its colors. Right?

Yeah, I just fixed it! (and now just lost a detailed post because session expired on the browser ).

See the WACUP post for new downloads!

Apparently, the Status_paused is not being read by System.OnStop, so Winamp ignored that condition all the time. My fix was to "tie" the Stop action to the animation frames.
So now all 4 animations are triggered when supposed to:
1. From "Music Stoped" to "Play Music" (ring GREY to PURPLE)
2. From "Play Music" to "Pause Music" (ring purple to YELLOW)
3. From "Play Music" to "Stop Music" (ring purple to grey)
4. From "Paused Music" to "Stop Music" (ring yellow to grey) << this one was not working

[Victhor]

Although I have frequently kept up with the Winamp Forum I have not posted in a couple of years (I think) as nothing of value to add. After many years of usage, Winamp is still my favourite music player and I have never found any substitute worthy of changing my mind.

I have just downloaded Victhor's Beta offering of "big_bento_modern_0.9_by_victhor.zip" skin and having played with it for only some 20 minutes, I felt compelled to break my over long silence and comment regarding it.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, VICTHOR - I Really REALLY Love it!

It looks really great on my 1920 x1080 (24 inch) display and is it is now my Default skin of choice. I find it very easy to navigate and set my desired layout. All my desired pieces of information are displayed in the skin. The large clear Song display Scrolling (when long) bar is superb and is also great for my Thai wife who can easily see her Thai script song titles.

Once again many, many thanks Victhor.
Kind Regards

Thanks! I'm glad you find it so useful, that's why I made it and seems to be really paying off!

Ps: I moved your thread here so I keep the News thread clean =)

[Aminifu]

...

So now all 4 animations are triggered when supposed to:
1. From "Music Stoped" to "Play Music" (ring GREY to PURPLE)
2. From "Play Music" to "Pause Music" (ring purple to YELLOW)
3. From "Play Music" to "Stop Music" (ring purple to grey)
4. From "Paused Music" to "Stop Music" (ring yellow to grey) << this one was not working

Of course it is your choice as the designer, but why use the colors grey and purple? Isn't red a more universal (and intuitive) color to indicate stop and green to indicate go (i.e. play)?

[Victhor]

Of course it is your choice as the designer, but why use the colors grey and purple? Isn't red a more universal (and intuitive) color to indicate stop and green to indicate go (i.e. play)?

That's really a matter of how is integrated on the design, red is also universally used as a warning, so it's used for that when volume is muted (even on the color of the Notifier text!). Stopped is gray to associate it better with "no action", like if the ring was disabled. Purple is used across the skin as a signal of temporary attention (hover states, seek, etc) and yellow (orangish) is for constant attention (things that stay LONGER on the same state or don't change from one track to track, or point to activated states, like pause).
As you can see, I thought it trough, so I'm glad you've asked

PS: being on the works for so long is perfectly possible that I betrayed my own reasoning at some point, on some part of the skin, or had to recur to one of the 2 colors when another one was actually needed, but I think it's not the case on the playback buttons particularly.

[JeremyRedhead]

Excuse me for asking, but where would I install this skin?
I've been using Winamp for a least a year now, but have never bothered installing a skin until now :P

[Victhor]

Excuse me for asking, but where would I install this skin?
I've been using Winamp for a least a year now, but have never bothered installing a skin until now :P

Unzip the folder inside the zips and place it on your Winamp skins folder, usually C/Program files (x86) /Winamp /skins. Let me know if you can't do it.

[Sabine Klare]

I myself always do copy & paste with the skins, presets, textures, and I use the skins as .wsz-files, .wal-files and .zip-folders. I didn't have used another open folder yet than these 3 which come already with the Winamp Installer.

I have seen the screenshots. Big Bento Modern Beta is very different from the other SUI-Skins (Bento, Big Bento, cPro, cPro2, cProXUI, Komodo X Touchscreeen). So I don't know, if I will load them. I myself love to have the tabs above, if I watch the Milkdrop Visualizer, and Milkdrop 2 really should sit 100% symmetrical for me.

Maybe I will try out Big Bento Modern Beta without having Milkdrop 2 running. I have read the .txt-files in my examination-section outside of Winamp, and I hope, Winamp will not crash, if I use the notifier (but I do that only on my notebook, on my PC I have set it to "never show").

I am already sure before I have seen Big Bento Modern Beta with my own eyes, You have done a good work...

[Victhor]

I am already sure before I have seen Big Bento Modern Beta with my own eyes, You have done a good work...

Thanks! I knew I could count on you!!

[ravermeister]

Hi, looks really nice and clean. But I'm missing the widgets setting where I can add the VU Meter to the skin. I mean the CoolVU I fixed some issues long time ago and uploaded it to Skinconsortium, but sadly the Website is currently broken

http://skinconsortium.com/index.php?page=ViewDownload&itemID=130

here is the thread about it: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=379694

how can I enable it in your skin?
thanks in advance
ravermeister

[Victhor]

Heh glad you liked it, but you've mistaken the skin for a cPro skin, this is not, this is a traditional modern skin. In fact, is based on the default skin Bento / Big Bento.
The VU meter is composed of xml and makis, just like any modern skin, so maybe I can add it as a fixed visualizer once the skin is published..

[Sabine Klare]

I have just tried to visit SkinConsortium from my Devious Journal "Winamp forever - Music forever!!! by Sternenmaschinebine on DeviantArt"

https://sternenmaschinebine.deviantart.com/journal/Winamp-forever-Music-forever-440352684

and I get the message "Fatal error: Invalid SQL: INSERT IGNORE INTO..."

I was online on deviantART anyway, and I have added a new favourite. As artist I want to promote also the other artists and skinners.

@ ravermeister and Victhor, I am sure, the VU meter can be added. I myself am more interested for the waveform seeker like in the downloaded "BBM+waveseeker.png" from the WACUP forums.

Because I will have a longer weekend this time, I will have some more time. We will see us somewhen next week...