Winamp Backup Tool (v3.6.4 available, released on 19-12-2022)

[Koopa]

I've tested it on my laptop which has Windows XP SP3 and I'm finding that not all of the files are backed up whenever it needs to create a new directory to copy files into. For example, if the Plugins/ml directory doesn't already exist when I run the tool, it creates the directory, but main.dat, main.idx, and the art* files do not get backed up in that directory, and everything else does. And some directories don't get created at all (Gracenote and ombrowser). If all of the directories are already there before I run it, everything seems to back up fine (except playlists.xml still doesn't). Hope this makes sense. If you want more details on what doesn't get backed up in other folders let me know.

Other people have confirmed, that backup under XP does not work in some cases.

We will search for the issue and hopefully find the reason for it. But that it works under Vista/Win 7 and not correctly under XP is a bit weird. *shrugs*

This will massively delay the original planed Beta 7 release, sorry.

[Koopa]

After a few hours I found the issue. XP has massive trouble to backup files, if the target dir doesn't exists.

That bug is really weird, and only affects XP and has nothing to do with our backup code.

I have at least started to workaround the issue, but I prefer to find a proper solution.

At least, we now know, where the problem is and can fix it.

[Koopa]

Winamp Backup Tool v1.0 Beta 7 available

Mainly a bug fix release. Spent the whole night to fix that nasty XP compatibility problem.

Also have improved English language file and added some new stuff.

Previous mode code was vastly improved, you won't loose your previous settings anymore, when using automatic mode.

- made that Winamp_Backup.ini is saved in same dir like winamp.ini

Because of that change, you will loose your previous settings. Sorry, I was too lazy to write import code for users of the betas.

That change was important and the new location won't be changed in future again.

having to pick custom, then previous from the drop down is kinda roundabout imo.

Mr.Sinatra: Haven't read that correctly the first time. If you made settings and run the tool again, you don't have to pick 'Previous Mode settings' from the dropdown menu. All your previous selected options are automatically checked.

But we may can implement a nice new thing, related to previous mode.

[evolution76]

It is getting better and better, one of my fav tools for Winamp

[lostinsound]

Worked great on both windows 7 and xp for me. Nice work!

[Knowone]

Potentially very useful. Will test!

[Knowone]

Great potential in this project. Will try it out!

[MrSinatra]

its really impressive now.

some feedback:

you could avoid "dir doesn't exist errors" by not allowing users to directly input the dir location, and instead make them browse to it. might be easier for you to force that. its what egg is doing for setting rip dirs.

also, when i use the tool, do a backup, close the tool, and then reopen it, "previous mode" is not checked, no matter how many times i do it and redo it by using previous mode. each time the app starts new, "custom mode" is checked instead. i think once i've used previous mode once, then each time i spawn the app new, previous mode should be checked if/since it was used last.

i think "automatic" is a nebulous term to use for many reasons. i think the three modes should be:

complete
--
custom
--
previous

and complete would be defined as everything. so when you backup, no question about it, it includes everything. when you restore, it restores everything included in the backup data. thats a slightly different minor point to make but unavoidable.

but regardless, i don't think its a good idea to have "automatic" or complete if you change it, have its function impacted at all by what the user has chosen previously. if backing up, it should always be everything, and if restoring it should be everything available in the backup data.

jmho.

where is the backup tool ini file? i can't find it. and is it included in the actual backup too?

and i know you guys aren't concerned with this yet, but just fyi "previous" is missing an O in the line under the previous mode choice.

great work!

[Koopa]

Mr.Sinatra:

Thanks for your feedback.

#1 "dir doesn't exist errors"

I don't understand what you mean. We only block forbidden characters, which wouldn't be allowed in Windows as well.

The ability to enter the path manually will stay, otherwise it would be a lacking feature, if the user cannot enter the path manually. Personally I always enter the paths manually.

#2 i think "automatic" is a nebulous term to use for many reasons

This will be a WONTFIX. It's clearly declared, what that mode does. You have some nice description text under the button. Additionally, a Backup plugin will access 'Automatic mode' via command line too. It also works internal as an automatic mode, trust me this makes sense, and if a user isn't able to understand the clear text, it's not our fault.

#3 where is the backup tool ini file?

Like written in the changelog, the file is saved in the same dir like your winamp.ini. Users really shouldn't touch that file, since it's only used for previous mode settings, though.

[Truthowl]

First, I love the idea of this program. Thank you very very much.

I've lost my ratings and such sooo many times. Though since I began installing it to my main system hard drive instead of my portable hard drive the problem seems to have disappeared. So I think the problem had to do with the 'delayed read/write' of USB drives in general.

Something you might want to consider for post v1.0 releases is instead of allowing users to choose the backup location have a button that copies all backup/restore files to/from a browsed to location.

Thank you again. I use Windows XP Pro 64 bit(all updates) and will download this now and give it a try.

[Truthowl]

Okay noticed a typo/misspelling on the installers very first window. Where it says

Enjoy the ultimate backup tool for Winamp:

It then has 5 dots with a short description after each point it's making. After the 4th point the word lovely is misspelled as lovley.

[Koopa]

I've already fixed a couple of spelling issues for next release. Thanks for the info, but that welcome page in installer is gone for final.

[Koopa]

Winamp Backup Tool v1.0 Beta 9 available

Beta 9, a lot of changes, which required a lot of time.

We're also accepting translations for the tool now, so if you want to translate the tool in your language, download the attached language file file from the first posting in this thread.

German and Polish language files will be ready for next beta.

As always, any feedback is welcome.

-Chris

PS: Donation link is a temporary solution, we will create an own paypal account for next release, in the meantime, you can spend Pawel cash.

[Koopa]

Winamp Backup Tool v1.0 Beta 9a available

1.0 Beta 9a:

- [Installer] fixed a couple of issues in previous mode code
- [Installer] fixed skipping of start menu page, when no start menu entries were selected
- [Installer] removed donation page from installer (hopefully won't return)

This happens, when you rush a release. Sadly I couldn't provide that update before, but I had some massive trouble with the power supply of my PC.

-Chris

[Koopa]

Previous Mode issues and the documentation thing are fixed in latest available build. The last link already fixed these issues, but fucking forums are damn slow here, when you edit links. I got a timeout for 4 times. So you probably loaded the wrong file.

So simply use the link again.

Will look at uninstaller now.

[Edit]Anything related to documentation is fixed now. I had disabled these parts because I originally planned to disable help file installation, until the file is completed.

Start menu folder will be deleted here, cannot repro the issue and cannot see any failure in code for this. Is UAC enabled?

That it doesn't delete the program folder I can see here too, but makes not much sense. Will shrink that issue down as well.