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  • #76
    Maybe it's because the stupid developers?

    Originally Posted by DrO View Post

    as i know i'm going to still keep working on / developing plug-ins as time allows.
    .
    Winamp has become so bad that it couldn't even read correctly the length of certain mp3 files. This is due to lazy, narrow-minded developers like DrO. When ALL the other players are capable of reading the length correctly, and Winamp is the only one that cannot, there is a huge problem with the attitude of the parasites around it.

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    • #77
      thank you sorein. i'll definitely be sending you a christmas card this year.
      WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

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      • #78
        Aaahh.. Sorein! Glad to see you here! Finally someone from AOL and its always nice constructivism is present! (I could add some other insult but that should be enough..)
        · · Big Bento Modern

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        • #79
          Winamp will NOT die!

          I've been using it since the beginning and I've never stopped using this outstanding media player.

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          • #80
            Just heard the news this morning. Not that I am surprised but hoped they would just leave it running on life support.

            RIP Winamp. Many years of my life I been spend on it, the forums and plugins I have been helped make.

            Congrats to all the staff there who keep it going. I hope you find pastures new and greener.
            "Rules are for the guidance of wisemen and the obedience of fools"

            Visuals - Morphyre www.Morphyre.com

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            • #81
              i too would like to see a reason why.. that would put things into perspective as to how e should all handle things from this point on.. we need more info

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              • #82
                Originally Posted by rvrbnk View Post
                JRiver can probably pay to host a forum and help with porting if we can get some help from users or from AOL.

                We might also pay for a developer, but AOL would need to allow access to the source.

                jimh at jriver
                Originally Posted by rvrbnk View Post
                If AOL doesn't continue to support this forum, JRiver might be able to do so.

                If anyone from AOL is reading, I'd be grateful to discuss how we can help your users.

                Thanks.

                Jim Hillegass
                JRiver
                jimh at jriver
                As long as JRiver is serious about helping and is willing to support Winamp without undue interference, I think the powers-that-be at AOL should have the grace to accept such a generous offer.

                While I agree with DrO that many forum posts might be outdated, that doesn't necessarily mean they're all useless. The forum contains a veritable treasure trove of information of historical significance, and dumping all that so people (both devs and users) are ignorant of what came before makes no sense as far as I can see.

                As for the offer of continued development, I think that is simply fantastic! A lot of us feel open-sourcing the program would be best, but this would be an equally acceptable solution IMO to keep a fantastic program alive. DrO, in case no-one at AOL has seen Jim's posts yet, can you bring them to their notice? We're all waiting eagerly for an official reaction to JRiver's offer, and I sincerely do hope AOL doesn't disappoint Winamp's long-term fans.

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                • #83
                  Originally Posted by DrO View Post
                  my point about SC is that basically they split off because they didn't think here was relevant anymore at the time (at least that's how i interpreted it).

                  with whatever is / isn't happening, pete and i are sorting out something at them moment.
                  Well, that's not entirely true

                  As we started we had the aim to become something similar to TheSkinFactory with website, downloads etc. The reason for creating a new forum was mainly due to the fact that some moderation decisions here were..., well old stories i don't want to dig up


                  I also don't think that importing stuff to the SC database is what we (/me speaking as SC admin) are keen on. Tbh, there isn't much activity on there either.

                  In the end that last thing we should do now is to separate stuff even further and create lots of small communities.
                  WebSite: www.skinconsortium.com - Community for Userinterface Design & Coding
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                  • #84
                    agreed which is why i've tried to get in quickly with things so setting up a forum with pete's help to cover maybe more so the Winamp / plug-in specific aspects (as iomegjaz seems to be focused on a purely GD replacement at least that's how i'm taking it from what's been said).
                    WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog

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                    • #85
                      Martin! This reminds me what happens here, when a big football team is in danger to lose its category, old glories return to try to avoid that and save the club. So then I would be just the goalkeeper substitute hehe.. call me when you need me! =)
                      · · Big Bento Modern

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                      • #86
                        sad to see it go

                        Hey guys, I just want you to know I had a blast writing my deadhead plugin -- I still get emails from Dead fans telling me how much they like it.
                        Great software, and great plugin API. You'll be missed.

                        A.Rod

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                        • #87
                          Originally Posted by DrO View Post
                          agreed which is why i've tried to get in quickly with things so setting up a forum with pete's help to cover maybe more so the Winamp / plug-in specific aspects (as iomegjaz seems to be focused on a purely GD replacement at least that's how i'm taking it from what's been said).
                          If you're going to create a new forum for the Winamp community, could you please also add a section for people that want to get started with developing their own plugins for Winamp?

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                          • #88
                            Originally Posted by Sanjay.K View Post
                            As long as JRiver is serious about helping and is willing to support Winamp without undue interference, I think the powers-that-be at AOL should have the grace to accept such a generous offer.
                            I think we'd run it as a separate operation for at least a while.
                            While I agree with DrO that many forum posts might be outdated, that doesn't necessarily mean they're all useless. The forum contains a veritable treasure trove of information of historical significance, and dumping all that so people (both devs and users) are ignorant of what came before makes no sense as far as I can see.
                            Preserving forum posts as is seems like it should be a high priority.
                            As for the offer of continued development, I think that is simply fantastic! A lot of us feel open-sourcing the program would be best, but this would be an equally acceptable solution IMO to keep a fantastic program alive. DrO, in case no-one at AOL has seen Jim's posts yet, can you bring them to their notice? We're all waiting eagerly for an official reaction to JRiver's offer, and I sincerely do hope AOL doesn't disappoint Winamp's long-term fans.
                            I've tried some of my old contacts at AOL but haven't received a reply yet. I'm not sure who is in charge any more. Almost ten years ago, we had some serious discussions with AOL about doing development for Winamp, but it never happened.

                            I'm going to make an offer to the forum. JRiver will distribute fifty free licenses or so to the first people who send me a good story about Winamp or the forum or Justin Frankel or a llama. I'll post them in a thread on our forum, but without any email addresses or personal details.

                            Just send me an e-mail with your story. It has to be heart felt and real. If your story gets published, you'll get a license. It may take a week or so.

                            Thanks.

                            Jim Hillegass
                            jimh at jriver

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                            • #89
                              An interesting twist:

                              Looks like the llama may not get off so easily after all. AOL yesterday announced that it was shutting down Winamp, media playing software for Windows and Android devices that it picked up through its $80 million acquisition of Nullsoft in 1999. But today Techcrunch has learned that AOL is talks with Microsoft to sell Winamp, along with Shoutcast, a media streaming service also developed by Nullsoft. We have also learned that AOL has been planning to announce the closure of Shoutcast next week.
                              -Jay | Radio Toolbox.com

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                              • #90
                                That's sort of interesting to see there... as currently most of the links for shoutcast are pointing to iTunes.

                                Is shoutcast going down as well?
                                CEO - DJ Fire
                                CrossFire-Radio

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