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[myrddin021]

So... if I understood correctly, some guys from the forum are developers, if they are still developing? Why don't they get in touch with others who would help? I am not a developer but I'm sure there are web sites where developers post their projects and then other developers can join in if they like the project. The name of Winamp would certainly draw attention of many.

[musicf8]

So... if I understood correctly, some guys from the forum are developers, if they are still developing? Why don't they get in touch with others who would help? I am not a developer but I'm sure there are web sites where developers post their projects and then other developers can join in if they like the project. The name of Winamp would certainly draw attention of many.

Getting developers isn't the issue, the issue is that Radionomy doesn't care about Winamp, hence why they fired their developers and been silent for over 4 years. There's still WACUP if you haven't seen it.

[myrddin021]

Well if they don't care, we can probably buy it for 50, maybe 65 bucks. If not, fk them, let's make "Wunamp" with mirrored logo and start whipping llama's a$$es, screw them!

[DJ-Garybaldy]

Well if they don't care, we can probably buy it for 50, maybe 65 bucks. If not, fk them, let's make "Wunamp" with mirrored logo and start whipping llama's a$$es, screw them!

When Radionomy bought Winamp along with shoutcast they paid a damn sight more than 50 bucks for the software and rights.

Try Millions then maybe they would sell you Winamp

[myrddin021]

I offered them $100 and am waiting their response.

[chros]

i offered them $100 and am waiting their response.

[DigitalHare]

Just someone checking in from 1.x days.

Man, I popped my nose over to look to see how Winamp's been doing and... It's kind of weird to see it in this state. I bought pro back when it was first offered up and all that. Popped by to try and grab it for the MilkDrop vis for a music player I use and... Wow. I kind of can't believe what I'm seeing in that it's been bought out again and abandoned. Registered to express some surprise at this; Winamp got me started with music and MP3s on my computer and here I am sitting at 13,000 songs these days when a couple hundred was a playlist I was proud of with Winamp's auto generated playlist thing.

[DJ-Garybaldy]

I offered them $100 and am waiting their response.

I just choked on my coffee... $100 don't make me laugh like that

I told you make it Millions and maybe they'll entertain your idea.

[MDMB]

I may be a Luddite, but for me Winamp is the business! Manages, plays and stores my rambling collection of Albums and playlists starting in 1960-ish and still growing!
I notice raised eyebrows when I mention using Winamp. But every time I try a supposedly superior product I end up seriously disappointed ~ nothing comes near the simplicity and usefulness of good old Winamp.
10/10 from my end.
Only one gripe, in that it sometimes does not recognise an album; but a bit of fiddling and it usually sorts itself out.
I recommend it to all and sundry. Despite the derision and mockery, no one has yet managed to show me a simpler or superior product.
As to upgrades. Well, I can wait ~ and am happy if they do nowt at all to it. Even with my head shredded by all and any amounts of, well, mind altering stuff, I can always find the sounds I want with Winamp.

[Victhor]

I may be a Luddite, but...

This is the part most "Winamp outsiders" don't understand.. we may end up feeling like going against the current, but because media players evolved mostly[*] to satisfy needs too different from what Winamp satisfies.
Our need is still there, though it will probably die with us; Play and Manage local music with a powerful yet simple app.
Mobile shifted the need to online music, which most people embraced, but in countries like mine, where internet is not that fast, a local collection is gold. I guess Winamp could've evolved to a professional business sector where audio pros have a similar need, but seems too late for that.

Summing up, you're not a luddite, is the industry which moved away from us, not the other way around =).
[*] In mobile there are exceptions, which feels a lot like what Winamp would be in there, I recommend checking it out; PlayerPro, Neutron and PowerAmp. All Android, anyone with similar apps for iOS?

[AndreWinamp]

Solution 1

https://www.neowin.net/news/limewire-resurrected-by-secret-dev-team

Solution 2
Ifdevs are not an issue, why don't we just start a new software from the ground?

Solution 3
Crowdsource and buy it from radionomy

Solution 4
Wait for a miracle (I still have faith)

[musicf8]

we may end up feeling like going against the current, but because media players evolved mostly to satisfy needs too different from what Winamp satisfies.
Our need is still there, though it will probably die with us; Play and Manage local music with a powerful yet simple app.

Personally I am not a fan of the way things have changed in that regard, and I can feel for what MDMB is saying about becoming a luddite as I am not a fan of a lot of the current tech nowadays (e.g. cloud).

I am very different from my friends in the sense that I have a large music collection that I cherish as much as my personal documents because they carry over 20 years of history of me collecting music and categorizing it. I also still buy CDs (and vinyl) because I prefer to have a physical copy that I can rip to FLAC. My friends on the other hand, I don't believe they even have a music collection anymore as they rely on cloud services like spotify/pandora/youtube. Every time I am over they are just streaming it via their game console/smart tv/etc.

I do miss the days of borrowing and lending CDs or burning CDs for road trips, parties, or friends, but I guess it is how it is these days. Still the thought of relying on a cloud service for anything irks me because it can so easily go offline or terms may change as I have seen in the past (like most recently for me Carbonite). When it comes to music, I will stick to my collection 95% of the time.

Now get off my lawn!

[dynamicradio]

Getting developers isn't the issue, the issue is that Radionomy doesn't care about Winamp, hence why they fired their developers and been silent for over 4 years. There's still WACUP if you haven't seen it.

Last I heard there was a legal issue stopping DJ Egg from releasing a Beta - it looked like until that issue the beta was close to being released. Was there any more updates about this? I know that all the AOL stuff needed to be removed but I presume this would have been done ready for the Beta which makes me wonder what legal stuff is stopping Winamps development. Part of me wonders if this is just Radioamy stopping this.

However, I'm not here to complain. I use Winamp and it works and I prefer it over the other stuff out there. I just hope one day Radioamy stops messing about

[musicf8]

Was there any more updates about this? I know that all the AOL stuff needed to be removed but I presume this would have been done ready for the Beta which makes me wonder what legal stuff is stopping Winamps development. Part of me wonders if this is just Radioamy stopping this.

It's been over 4 years and there's even still references to aol in this website's code.... tells you how eager radionomy is to produce and get out a new winamp or support the community.

Anyway, check out my signature, that's where I keep status of the most latest update

[chros]

In that case, I will shelve trashing the Windows 10 laptop, I cannot live without Winamp!

You don't have to, if you don't mind a bit of fiddling: install Linux (e.g. Ubuntu) on it and use Audacious with classic Winamp skins. You can have exclusive mode as well, if you select Alsa as output device and choose direct hardware access. One of my laptop works this way.

I notice raised eyebrows when I mention using Winamp. But every time I try a supposedly superior product I end up seriously disappointed ~ nothing comes near the simplicity and usefulness of good old Winamp.
10/10 from my end.

Almost exactly! For me is only 9.5/10 because of the lacking proper wasapi output plugin.
I've been using Winamp for 20+ years, sometimes I looked for alternatives, but never found anything simple but amazing like it ... until now (see below)

IMO Winamp is not dead as long as it works which it does atleast now.

That's correct: it's not dead, only development is dead.

Getting developers isn't the issue ...

Are you sure about it? If so, may I suggest to try to write a wasapi output plugin for it? That's the only thing I miss (but this is a deal breaker for me, see below why). There was recently an unsuccessful attempt for it in the form of yasapi output plugin, unfortunately.
I don't think it raises any legal issue, but I don't really know.
There're opensource wasapi implementaion for DirectShow on github, that work well, it "only" needs to be ported to Winamp. (Unfortunately I'm not a Win coder, so I can't help You with it.)

... just use aimp3 ...

Wooow! Thank You so much for mentioning! How come that I never heard about this Winamp clone in the past and it's more then 10 years old!
It solved my only problem with Winamp that I have in the last 3 years (since I have this AVR and Win8.1):
- namely, putting out Quadrophone output (subwoofer is also used)
I use the latest aimp release for a week now, and I only found couple of lack-of-features with the Alarm plugin (ClockAmp for Winamp is more advanced) that I'll report to its devs.
Multiple playlist in the same playlist window (search capability in playlist), built-in cue list support, proper directsound/wasapi implementation (with exclusive mode) with channel duplication (!), skinning support, plugin based architecture, youtube/soundcloud support (with user plugins, if you want), sleep timer/alarm.
It just simply blew my mind that there's an amazing clone of the great Winamp!

At last: I still use Winamp with it : it wakes up properly the laptop every morning (until they'll implement the missing featues).