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  • Really, MrBurns? Really?
    Insulting the Winamp & SHOUTcast lead dev isn't going to help matters.
    I think you owe DrO an apology there :-(

    Look, we understand the frustration, but trust me, if there was more news to tell you, we would.

    Virtually all of 2014 was spent working on SHOUTcast.
    We had to get the directory and software working again whilst also introducing some method of monetization to keep the project maintainable and viable - most of which has now been achieved, but we're still not fully there yet.

    DrO has been exceptionally busy working on SHOUTcast, though he has also managed to commit a fair few changes to Winamp inbetween, whenever time allows - all of which will be listed in my usual ' internal changelog' which accompanies releases on here....
    which currently already has ~100 entries :-)

    Once we're reasonably happy with SHOUTcast, all else follows, and focus will then hopefully turn more to Winamp.

    There's still a lot of work required before we can even consider an internal beta release of Winamp, let alone a public release.

    As has been stated a fair few times in this thread, we need to remove & replace:
    - Gracenote (CDDB, MusicID, AutoTag, Playlist Generator), with free alternatives
    - the Sonic ripping & burning engine
    - Various online services (Now Playing, Podcast Directory, Online Services views, etc)
    - maybe also some decoders, depending on licensing status (this could be a huge job, but for legal reasons, I won't go into detail here)

    And on top of all that, we still also need to design a new skin or ui (or something along those lines) to accompany a 6.0 type release...

    To be perfectly honest, it would be more realistic to say that we're looking more at the back end of 2015 for a new public release of Winamp.

    Whatever the case, we should surely be hugely grateful to Radionomy for stepping in to save Winamp & SHOUTcast, because if they hadn't, there would be no Winamp, no SHOUTcast, no forum, nothing. AOL would've shut it all down and probably not open-sourced anything.

    Winamp has been a huge part of my life for the past 15 years, to the point where not even a heart-attack 3+ years ago could quell my passion. So believe me, I understand your frustrations.

    For now, all we ask is that people show some patience and understanding.... and also some respect and appreciation for DrO, Radionomy and everyone else concerned....including the Winamp community & forum (and rules).

    Thank you for reading. Please be nice.

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    • Thanks for that.
      I PMed DrO to let him know I was not out to offend anyone. I'll be the first to apologise if I did.
      Cheers, Pete

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      • Hey guys, I've been an avid Winamp user for the past 15 years or so. I'm looking forward to Winamp 6 and will gladly beta (heck, even alpha) test for you guys. Its so awesome that you're completely overhauling the software, which has been something long overdue. I just want to thank you guys for making my favourite piece of software ever, keep on rocking!

        Happy 2015 and all the best to the Winamp Team.


        PS: Please don't listen to the haters.

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        • Dro months ago I gave you the version of Winamp. That should have been sufficient.

          Don't forget that this is YOUR proprietary software with which you win money, not me.

          Contributing to the free world, Ok, giving a hand to the proprietary/closed-source, why not, but don't come to me and say I don't give enough information, blablabla.

          Don't forget also that before you bought it, Winamp, SHOUTcast TV and SHOUTcast Radio were all working perfectly. At least, if you didn't have touched it, it would be still working. But you made changes and now you're asking me to help you for free to correct YOUR mistakes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          And can we know why SHOUTcast TV won't be longer supported ? Can you paste a link to the page explaining that regression ?

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          • Originally Posted by danton.q View Post
            Dro months ago I gave you the version of Winamp. That should have been sufficient.

            Don't forget that this is YOUR proprietary software with which you win money, not me.

            Contributing to the free world, Ok, giving a hand to the proprietary/closed-source, why not, but don't come to me and say I don't give enough information, blablabla.

            Don't forget also that before you bought it, Winamp, SHOUTcast TV and SHOUTcast Radio were all working perfectly. At least, if you didn't have touched it, it would be still working. But you made changes and now you're asking me to help you for free to correct YOUR mistakes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            And can we know why SHOUTcast TV won't be longer supported ? Can you paste a link to the page explaining that regression ?
            Geez, that's a bit of a meltdown...

            Originally Posted by DrO View Post
            ...

            as for the view not working, you need to provide a bit more information than just "doesn't work" like screenshots, info tool reports, etc.
            Remember this post? Why don't you provide some of that info so the devs can tell you what's wrong and how to fix it? The more specific the info, the easier it is to identify the problem.

            (I'm in software support myself so I'm just helping you along here)

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            • Egg, great post. Thanks for that.

              @Winamp Users
              Please be patient. Devs really do everything they can do. DrO is the most involved Winamp person I know. Trust me, he is great programmer and he cares about Winamp like nobody else. It all just need time.


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              • Originally Posted by danton.q View Post
                Dro months ago I gave you the version of Winamp. That should have been sufficient.

                Don't forget that this is YOUR proprietary software with which you win money, not me.
                @ danton.q Dude seriously???? You have been living in a cave for a year. Winamp would not have been here if it was not for Radionomy and the fantastic team of Devs. Shut up and go use itunes.
                Powering through with the bolt

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                • Originally Posted by DJ Egg View Post
                  Really, MrBurns? Really?
                  Insulting the Winamp & SHOUTcast lead dev isn't going to help matters.
                  I think you owe DrO an apology there :-(

                  Look, we understand the frustration, but trust me, if there was more news to tell you, we would.

                  Virtually all of 2014 was spent working on SHOUTcast.
                  We had to get the directory and software working again whilst also introducing some method of monetization to keep the project maintainable and viable - most of which has now been achieved, but we're still not fully there yet.

                  DrO has been exceptionally busy working on SHOUTcast, though he has also managed to commit a fair few changes to Winamp inbetween, whenever time allows - all of which will be listed in my usual ' internal changelog' which accompanies releases on here....
                  which currently already has ~100 entries :-)

                  Once we're reasonably happy with SHOUTcast, all else follows, and focus will then hopefully turn more to Winamp.

                  There's still a lot of work required before we can even consider an internal beta release of Winamp, let alone a public release.

                  As has been stated a fair few times in this thread, we need to remove & replace:
                  - Gracenote (CDDB, MusicID, AutoTag, Playlist Generator), with free alternatives
                  - the Sonic ripping & burning engine
                  - Various online services (Now Playing, Podcast Directory, Online Services views, etc)
                  - maybe also some decoders, depending on licensing status (this could be a huge job, but for legal reasons, I won't go into detail here)

                  And on top of all that, we still also need to design a new skin or ui (or something along those lines) to accompany a 6.0 type release...

                  To be perfectly honest, it would be more realistic to say that we're looking more at the back end of 2015 for a new public release of Winamp.

                  Whatever the case, we should surely be hugely grateful to Radionomy for stepping in to save Winamp & SHOUTcast, because if they hadn't, there would be no Winamp, no SHOUTcast, no forum, nothing. AOL would've shut it all down and probably not open-sourced anything.

                  Winamp has been a huge part of my life for the past 15 years, to the point where not even a heart-attack 3+ years ago could quell my passion. So believe me, I understand your frustrations.

                  For now, all we ask is that people show some patience and understanding.... and also some respect and appreciation for DrO, Radionomy and everyone else concerned....including the Winamp community & forum (and rules).

                  Thank you for reading. Please be nice.
                  Appreciate the dedication and hard work. A heart attack is a huge setback and it is laudable that you have the enthusiasm and dedication.

                  @ DrO @ DJEgg Please ignore the haters. We respect your work.
                  Powering through with the bolt

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                  • I'm also on software support and software dev, but for free, open-source software. This way I can ask user to contribute.

                    You are using proprietary software and you are paid to make it work.

                    You are asking me to do your job, if you want me to help you, open Winamp source, post them on GitHub or Sourceforge and then I'll be glade to provide all informations you want and also, maybe, help you code the correction !

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                    • Raj_09, the problem is that it has worked perfectly. You had in your hands a functional Winamp/Shoutcast.

                      But since you bouhgt it and made some modifications, it does not work anymore.

                      My frustration does not come from known bugs, but from bugs you introduced and you want me to solve.

                      If your "fantastic team of Devs" hadn't modify anything, everything would work today.

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                      • Originally Posted by danton.q View Post
                        I'm also on software support and software dev, but for free, open-source software. This way I can ask user to contribute.

                        You are using proprietary software and you are paid to make it work.

                        You are asking me to do your job, if you want me to help you, open Winamp source, post them on GitHub or Sourceforge and then I'll be glade to provide all informations you want and also, maybe, help you code the correction !
                        So even a screenshot of the problem is too much to ask? A DebugView text file is against your ethics?

                        Well then, I guess you're on your own...

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                        • I love Winamp, I use it since 1997.

                          I was using Winamp/SHOUTcast Radio since 2005 until 2013 (when it has stopped to work).

                          I hope one day I can get back to working SHOUTcast - Winamp.

                          I hope also SHOUTcast TV will come back (or any link to a explanation why it is discontinued and how to rebuild it for another who may want to fork).

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                          • Originally Posted by danton.q View Post
                            Raj_09, the problem is that it has worked perfectly. You had in your hands a functional Winamp/Shoutcast.

                            But since you bouhgt it and made some modifications, it does not work anymore.

                            My frustration does not come from known bugs, but from bugs you introduced and you want me to solve.

                            If your "fantastic team of Devs" hadn't modify anything, everything would work today.
                            @ danton.q

                            I am not a dev but just a faithful user (10 years). I have done programming enough before to know how much time and effort an overhaul can take. Some components will not work and are going to break. You got to deal with that in a mature manner and understand that things will take time to fix. You did not provide the info when asked, if I am not mistaken.

                            Another thing: Winamp is not open-source and posting the code on any site for you to fix is a ludicrous idea.
                            Powering through with the bolt

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                            • Originally Posted by warr10r View Post
                              So even a screenshot of the problem is too much to ask?
                              Didn't I gave 2 screenshots yesterday ? Oh yes I did...

                              Originally Posted by warr10r View Post
                              A DebugView text file is against your ethics?
                              Of course not, of course I'll be glade to Debug what you want... on open-source projects.

                              For privative projects, I'll also be glade, just make me a donation of 10€.

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                              • Originally Posted by danton.q View Post
                                Didn't I gave 2 screenshots yesterday ? Oh yes I did...



                                Of course not, of course I'll be glade to Debug what you want... on open-source projects.

                                For privative projects, I'll also be glade, just make me a donation of 10€.
                                You are wasting people's time.
                                Powering through with the bolt

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