Winamp 5.8 Beta, Build 3660 (official)

[tom white]

I'm trying this, but have an unusual problem. Works fine with my headphones, but when I unplug the phones I get no sound from my laptops speakers. This doesn't happen with any other music program (WMP, MediaMonky, MusicBee, etc.). Haven't been able to figure out why yet.

Oh, I'm running Windows 10, on a Dell laptop. Winamp audio output was left as Direct.

[tom white]

Sorry about the mis-spell on MediaMonkey. Couldn't find a way to edit my post.

[vkaku]

I say this: F- yeah! (no expletives intended)

It literally came to life after I last used Winamp 5.5-ish! It's been a major part of life, from 1995-2005, before it literally died and got resurrected recently.

[tom white]

I'm trying this, but have an unusual problem. Works fine with my headphones, but when I unplug the phones I get no sound from my laptops speakers. This doesn't happen with any other music program (WMP, MediaMonky, MusicBee, etc.). Haven't been able to figure out why yet.

Oh, I'm running Windows 10, on a Dell laptop. Winamp audio output was left as Direct.

OK. I figured it out. If I "right-click" on the volume icon in the laptop tray, it shows three columns - but only when Winamp is running. The first column is overall volume, the second is system sounds, and a third column for Winamp. The third column was set very low and did not relate to the volume actually set in Winamp. It was more like a maximum volume indicator. I just increased it and all is well.

I've never seen it do that in any other music program.

[aeriolewinters]

Thank you for releasing this version, and I hope we hear more from you. I kinda dig the new icon you used in the web site, was wondering if someone could release an Icon set with the same concept?

[PeterK.]

I kinda dig the new icon you used in the web site, was wondering if someone could release an Icon set with the same concept?

Here you go!

[joebloggscity]

managed to download it and all good so far, thx a lot

Really want to keep this alive and like many would be happy to make a donation.

[vkaku]

Sweet! I am happy to donate for new versions.

Is there a known issue thread/bugzilla for Winamp? I know it's not Github, but I would like to see known issues being marked as fixed or deprioritized.

No new features, just bugfixes. I think there are too many threads (including ones I created) which all seem to have these reported but I'd like to see them all addressed in one place.

[MrSinatra]

OK. I figured it out. If I "right-click" on the volume icon in the laptop tray, it shows three columns - but only when Winamp is running. The first column is overall volume, the second is system sounds, and a third column for Winamp. The third column was set very low and did not relate to the volume actually set in Winamp. It was more like a maximum volume indicator. I just increased it and all is well.

I've never seen it do that in any other music program.

yeah, i see the following issues semi often here in the forum, all relating to low volume.

a mixer one, like you describe above, a similar mixer one where windows has a feature to lower volume automagically when voice chat happens, (i find it crap and so i deactivate it), and an issue where changing to another output plugin, and then back, fixes it.

all kinda nebulous and hard to diagnose, but good to be aware of.

[thinktink]

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All mp3 patents expired and lame_enc.dll 3.99.5 is included in the package.

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Wait, what?!

I went to the Fraunhofer website and they said that even though the core mp3 codec functions had unrenewed patents there were still some non-core stuff still patended that mp3 relies on. I know they dropped the licensing program for mp3 but I read further and what they wrote implied (at least to my non-legal interpretation) that you still had to contact them for licensing for new products or services. Is my interpretation wrong? Or does it mean I can now legally bundle the lame encoder with my software if I wanted to without paying or getting permission, or is it something else?

[Skolkovich]

What about language support?

Winamp supports all languages, like the old version. The developers didn’t add it easy. The translation into Russian came up from version 5.63

[musicf8]

@evil_pro

There might be e.g. a 5.81 and further updates.
We shall see.

I really hope so. It would be a shame to end Winamp on a unfinished beta

[eliotime3000]

No, K-Lite Codec Pack does just help to WMP on Windows XP

For those people that want to bring out the H.264 video playback on Winamp, the K-Lite codec pack is useful in Windows Vista due to the demuxing process depends directly from Media Foundation feature. Ironicly, the AAC audio playback works on XP, specially on the audio streams.

Also, as an extra reminder, the Windows Media Format Runtime is the former technology that Windows used for Windows Media Player until Windows XP. Since Vista and above, it's replaced by Media Foundation, which actually makes usage of the H.264 and/or HEVC codecs.

TLR, Winamp 5.8 beta does not get improved with the installation of K-Lite Codec Pack, unless that you're using Windows Vista.

[eliotime3000]

Fraunhofer is actually focuses on H.264 and MPEG-4 coding

Wait, what?!

I went to the Fraunhofer website and they said that even though the core mp3 codec functions had unrenewed patents there were still some non-core stuff still patended that mp3 relies on. I know they dropped the licensing program for mp3 but I read further and what they wrote implied (at least to my non-legal interpretation) that you still had to contact them for licensing for new products or services. Is my interpretation wrong? Or does it mean I can now legally bundle the lame encoder with my software if I wanted to without paying or getting permission, or is it something else?

Actually, Fraunhofer is focusing all their efforts into the H.264 and MPEG-4 coding features, which requires some royalties if you want to employ it for commercial reasons. In case of open-source media players like Audacious, VLC and others, the usage of open-source codecs like libav, ffmpeg and/or matroska are valid choices, but in case of commercial support, these codecs may not be embedded. That's the main reason that VLC was initially a paid application in iOS.

[eliotime3000]

Well, I found a new feature that should be added on 5.666

Sweet! I am happy to donate for new versions.

Is there a known issue thread/bugzilla for Winamp? I know it's not Github, but I would like to see known issues being marked as fixed or deprioritized.

No new features, just bugfixes. I think there are too many threads (including ones I created) which all seem to have these reported but I'd like to see them all addressed in one place.

Well, I've found that now I finally can edit the URL's of the Online Service menu, stuff that I couldn't be able to do that until this version.