Winamp will most likely have something to do with NFTs

[DJ-Garybaldy]

NFT was one potential part of the function for implementing Artist support, e.g. to guarantee that an album or song etc. is unique and belonging exclusively to the composer or copyright owner.

And if it detects an mp3 isn't "Geniune"?


I have a LOT of files in my library ripped from Vinyl... What would happen to those files would I be reported for piracy?

[NJK]

We will not be charging for Winamp, though I can't personally guarantee there won't eventually be any additional subscription type services.

A bit like the old days when you could get Pro for money

Personal real-life issues have gotten in the way and taken their toll. I personally have lost loved ones to covid.

Very sorry to hear this.

[DJ Egg]

And if it detects an mp3 isn't "Geniune"?


I have a LOT of files in my library ripped from Vinyl... What would happen to those files would I be reported for piracy?

Oops, sorry. I've now edited my first post to hopfully explain it a bit more clearly.

To clarify, this particular element has got nothing to do with the user's music library or local mp3 collection. It relates solely to the hopeful/additional implementation of a music discovery type service akin to Spotify, Deezer, Bandcamp, Amazon Music, Apple Music, YT Music, Jamendo (AudioValley's current relevant/similar service), etc. where artists/labels can submit their music.

[0x5066]

NFT was one potential part of the function for implementing support for Artist/Label submissions in a proposed music discovery type service, e.g. to guarantee that an album or song etc. is unique and belonging exclusively to the composer or copyright owner.

That's funny.

This particular additional feature itself has not yet been implemented in any alpha versions and won't be in any initial public beta version either.

We will not be charging for Winamp, though I can't personally guarantee there won't eventually be any additional subscription type services.

I honestly do not know at this point.

This at least tells me a few things, one which says that you aren't fully in the Winamp 6 team, and that the Twitter sh*tstorm from yesterday may or may not have had an impact.

As I've said all along, the Winamp (5) for Windows project is not dead.

Why'd the site redesign state before that it's not an on-going project? Who am I supposed to believe now, the official Winamp homepage, or a developer?

Myself, Benski and others have been planning to work on it (there has been a few internal updates)

If you are indeed working on whatever new comes from the Winamp 5 line, then I ask of you the following to consider.

Consider open sourcing the entirety of the Modern Skin engine with a license that has no restrictions whatsoever, allowing anyone who has any remote interest to implement the engine into their own programs and to fork and update it with their own needs, I'm sure you're aware of how important it is to at least a handful of people, myself included, and for the sake of history being preserved.

but the past couple of years have been extremely difficult. Personal real-life issues have gotten in the way and taken their toll. I personally have lost loved ones to covid.

My condolences.

[DJ Egg]

That's funny.


This at least tells me a few things, one which says that you aren't fully in the Winamp 6 team, and that the Twitter sh*tstorm from yesterday may or may not have had an impact.


Why'd the site redesign state before that it's not an on-going project? Who am I supposed to believe now, the official Winamp homepage, or a developer?


If you are indeed working on whatever new comes from the Winamp 5 line, then I ask of you the following to consider.

Consider open sourcing the entirety of the Modern Skin engine with a license that has no restrictions whatsoever, allowing anyone who has any remote interest to implement the engine into their own programs and to fork and update it with their own needs, I'm sure you're aware of how important it is to at least a handful of people, myself included, and for the sake of history being preserved.


My condolences.

The official Winamp 6 roadmap drawn up a few months back states that the music discovery feature won't be in any initial public beta release.


For the record, I've been part of the "Nullsoft" team for ~20 years.
I've continually stated on here that Winamp 5 for Windows is an ongoing project.

However, I've never been responsible for making executive decisions.

[0x5066]

So that's a no from making gen_ff/the modern skin engine open source...?

[DJ Egg]

So that's a no from making gen_ff/the modern skin engine open source...?

That's something for company directors/CEOs/managers to answer.
I'm just a lowly QA/support-dev/engineer/tech co-worker.


There was talk of open-sourcing the whole thing at one point, but nothing ever came of it.

[0x5066]

Well, I can still hope of gen_ff being open sourced one day.

[ChocolateAdventurouz]

I think Winamp is more like an experiment.

[0x5066]

I think Winamp is more like an experiment.

I told you so.

[NJK]

He 0x5066

how about waiting for the release of Winamp 6, use it and than criticize instead of making a whole of fuzz about it and having a biased opinion .

You don't have a clue what it's going to be just like the rest of us

[olavinto]

Oops, sorry. I've now edited my first post to hopfully explain it a bit more clearly.

To clarify, this particular element has got nothing to do with the user's music library or local mp3 collection. It relates solely to the hopeful/additional implementation of a music discovery type service akin to Spotify, Deezer, Bandcamp, Amazon Music, Apple Music, YT Music, Jamendo (AudioValley's current relevant/similar service), etc. where artists/labels can submit their music.

And this is what any modern media player should aim to provide if it wants to be relevant, weather you like and/or use these services or not. This is where the mass media market is these days (music and video) and it should be supported or at the very least considered heavily. This does not mean that it has to diminish the value and functionality of traditional local media playback. Otherwise the product will service only a very limited user base (in comparison) and it would basically be just some kind of a passion project in which case it would work much better as an open source project (again, this does not mean that it can't be a passion project now too).

I would have been shocked if there weren't any plans or at least concept ideas to support Jamendo and obviously Shoutcast since they are products of the same company, after all. As a business decision it would be absolutely idiotic to invest into a media player and not support your own services/resources with it (a "non profit" is still basically a business, it just does not do it to make a profit for itself - "non-profits" is not synonymous with something that does not need income - there are bills to pay).

I have always been a supporter of providing as much flexibility/customization/options for any and all end users to enjoy. As long as they are implemented with care and within reasonable limits to be able to maintain develop them further, of course. If you wish to play local media files, then I'm happy that you are able to do so, even if I don't do that anymore myself (much).

[MrSinatra]

akin to Spotify, Deezer, Bandcamp, Amazon Music, Apple Music, YT Music, Jamendo (AudioValley's current relevant/similar service), etc. where artists/labels can submit their music.

check this one out:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_(service)

For the record, I've been part of the "Nullsoft" team for ~20 years.
I've continually stated on here that Winamp 5 for Windows is an ongoing project.

i'm glad ur still with us and with winamp Egg, u would be missed.

[olavinto]

He 0x5066

how about waiting for the release of Winamp 6, use it and than criticize instead of making a whole of fuzz about it and having a biased opinion .

You don't have a clue what it's going to be just like the rest of us

Yeah, hype and speculation is fine as long as it isn't packaged, rated and reviewed as something that actually exists. That is how good things get destroyed and bad ones succeed even before anything is actually known about them.

[0x5066]

He 0x5066

how about waiting for the release of Winamp 6, use it and than criticize instead of making a whole of fuzz about it and having a biased opinion .

You don't have a clue what it's going to be just like the rest of us

i wish i was just as blissfully ignorant as you , but alas, staying up to date on topics like NFTs and crypto doesn't exactly allow me to just "wait" for things to actually come (i really dont have to point you to the winamp NFT initiative/foundation now, do i? still baffled at how this doesn't even phase you one bit, oh well)

Yeah, hype and speculation is fine as long as it isn't packaged, rated and reviewed as something that actually exists. That is how good things get destroyed and bad ones succeed even before anything is actually known about them.

that's kinda funny when you consider how much of a sh*t reputation NFTs and crypto have, and with winamp's name being dragged through the mud with this nonsense has also irrefutably damaged winamp's reputation

yes, the player isn't out, i get it, however with what they're doing now i'm not so trusting in what they have planned for the player