Manually adding an online service in Winamp 5.666

[ryerman]

Winamp is fine with HTTPS addresses.

Really?
Is it possible to play an HTTPS URL by using File > Play URL... [Cntl + L]?
Any time I've tried, "Error syncing to stream" is displayed.
Please post a complete HTTPS URL that can be played in Winamp.

[Dr.Flay]

Good question....

Try this QI Elves podcast episode http://qi.com/podcast/

https://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/262859662-nosuchthingasafish-episode-112-no-such-thing-as-a-lego-aircraft-carrier.mp3

It works for me.

The site and RSS feeds only give HTTP sources (this is normal), but does serve the files if you add an S

https://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:11400353/sounds.rss

However, as noted the RSS does not contain HTTPS links.

Very few HTTPS sites serve the actual downloads via HTTPS, only the page or wrapper contents.
This is a big complaint of mine which I don't see improving in the next 5 years.

[ryerman]

Try this QI Elves podcast episode http://qi.com/podcast/

https://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/262859662-nosuchthingasafish-episode-112-no-such-thing-as-a-lego-aircraft-carrier.mp3

It works for me.

It works for me too, but stops after the one Podcast episode.
Winamp acts as if a file is being played, not a stream.

I wonder if anybody can find a continuous HTTPS stream that plays in Winamp.
If so, that's great.
If not, then my quibble is with the generality of the previous statement: "Winamp is fine with HTTPS addresses."

I understand that they are useable as an URL when creating an Online Service.

[Dr.Flay]

Obviously podcasts end, but streams also had a start and will end when someone switches it off.
Streams are files that you missed the begining of, and leave before it finishes.
The data format is arbitrary.

Here is the mp3 stream for my local radio station

http://live.canstream.co.uk:8000/sourcefm.mp3

If you try saving it, you will have to decide when to stop.

The main problem is as I say, almost nobody serves media vis HTTPS, only the site content.
Finding any HTTPS streams or media will be a problem.
I just chanced that soundcloud have the certificate set to include the subdomains.

First find any radio station that uses HTTPS, and serves the files from the same domain or sudomain.
Then you can use an HTTPS stream.

When it fails after manually adding an S, it is because the site does not have a valid certificate.

[ryerman]

First find any radio station that uses HTTPS, and serves the files from the same domain or sudomain.
Then you can use an HTTPS stream.

Show me.
Until a HTTPS URL can be shown to play in Winamp, it is disingenuous to say "Winamp is fine with HTTPS addresses."

[Dr.Flay]

...errr I just did.
You played the soundcloud link via HTTPS, thereby proving that Winamp can stream via HTTPS if the certificate is valid.
Souncloud uses a certificate minted for the site, so you can use the whole site via HTTPS, not just logins.

Show me your failed HTTPS radio streams, and I will show you a site without a certificate, or a matching certificate.
I bet if you try the problem site with an S, you get a fail in your web browser.
You will see the certificate belongs to Akamai or other CDN.

Just because a site will use HTTPS for logins, does not mean that the content will work via HTTPS.
NPR is an example https://www.npr.org/music/ will not work because the certificate does not match
Same for https://www.kcrw.com/music/shows/eclectic24

Those sites use HTTPS logins and you could force IE to accept the expired or wrong certificates for those sites (but no, you should never do that).

Here is your proof if you need more.

https://streaming.radionomy.com/PowerProgressiveNewmetalRadio

It is just a non-stop mp3 file, seved from a site with a valid cert.

[ryerman]

Here is your proof if you need more.

https://streaming.radionomy.com/PowerProgressiveNewmetalRadio

It is just a non-stop mp3 file, seved from a site with a valid cert.

Thanks.
Radionomy is now geo-blocked in my location, like many other places in the world.
However, after switching locations with a VPN service, that link does play. [Cntl + L]
But the same stream plays after changing the prefix from HTTPS to HTTP.

[Dr.Flay]

.....But the same stream plays after changing the prefix from HTTPS to HTTP.

...ummm, yes of course it does, and your problem is ?
It is not rocket surgery, that is how the web works. HTTPS is HTTP with TLS and a certificate
Unless the server admin has specifically set the server to deny non-authenticated connections, HTTP will always work.

Like I said already, you show me your failed streams, and I will show you a site without a valid certificate.
There is nothing more to it than that.

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTPS

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Layer_Security

[ryerman]

DrO, the former lead Winamp developer, discusses HTTPS streams in Winamp here:
https://getwinamp.com/blog/index.php...y160801-161955

He seems to think that that they don't work properly.

I don't know enough about such things to continue the discussion, but I'm sure he'd welcome your input through the comments section of his blog. (DrO won't respond here)

Maybe you can convince him that they work correctly so he doesn't waste time fixing something that isn't broken.
Or maybe he'll convince you that they don't work properly.

[Dr.Flay]

Thanks for the post.
My main problem I found is that so few streams are actually served via HTTPS, even though the host site uses it for login.
As you see I still only have 2, and both are served from Radionomy



As yet nobody has supplied any other URLs to try, and I will try any that are given.

[ryerman]

As yet nobody has supplied any other URLs to try, and I will try any that are given.

Try this one:
https://getwinamp.com/files/demo.mp3
It plays in Firefox but not in Winamp.

[Dr.Flay]

The cloudflare certificate is using the newer style Eliptic Curve cypher.
IE8/WinXP will not open the link either.
Firefox has its own certificate store.
I recommend making your comparison with IE because it uses the OS certificate store like Winamp.

Helpful link but only slightly.

Come on people, someone must be able to find some more full HTTPS streams that are not Radionomy.

[ahmed elshikh]

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[Ricardo Abarca]

thank you

[BradyBunchFan]

I can't seem to get Radionomy to play anything.