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    Hello! I'm running WinAmp Lite because it's a memory efficient mp3 player. My playlist is rather large. Almost 600 songs now. What I have noticed though is if I do not feel like listening to a song or songs and skip forward 3 times or more my entire computer just freezes up for 20 seconds then starts going about again. I can recreate this situation.

    I thought it was the output but it is on DirectSound. Anyone have any ideas what may be causing this?

    System Information report written at: 06/25/11 00:23:17
    System Name: ORTIZ-PC
    [System Summary]

    Item Value
    OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
    Version 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601
    Other OS Description Not Available
    OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    System Name
    System Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.
    System Model CM1630
    System Type x64-based PC
    Processor AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 220 Processor, 2800 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
    BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 0304, 5/20/2010
    SMBIOS Version 2.5
    Windows Directory C:\Windows
    System Directory C:\Windows\system32
    Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
    Locale United States
    Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7601.17514"
    User Name
    Time Zone Mountain Daylight Time
    Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 8.00 GB
    Total Physical Memory 7.75 GB
    Available Physical Memory 5.78 GB
    Total Virtual Memory 15.5 GB
    Available Virtual Memory 13.2 GB
    Page File Space 7.75 GB
    Page File C:\pagefile.sys

  • #2
    In need of a shameless bump.


    • #3
      No one? Really?


      • #4
        Originally Posted by Afroman View Post
        No one? Really?
        You have neither confirmed nor denied you have followed any of the instructions here:
        Howzit....Whatzit...what tha...? How to tune up, and keep your Winamp player humming along. Search this Forum to find others who have driven down your road and have advice and tips to help you out.

        Complete a clean reinstall of Winamp as outlined here:

        If the problem still persists, please provide/post all required information using the instructions as outlined here:

        Make sure you've installed the latest version of Winamp. As of this post it's 5.62.

        Also, as a side note, Winamp is no longer called "WinAmp." It's just "Winamp" now (no capital "A.")
        | Opus Audio Codec plugins 2.0 | Embedded Album Art | DiskWrite |
        | Save your playlist first! | Live voice-over | X-Fade 2.5 |
        | AterKast (Source DSP) | More of my stuff... |


        • #5
          It is recent version as for everything else in that FAQ I posted the first part of the Guidelines already.

          Clean reinstall: I've done that 9 times before making this post trying every version to get rid of it. Still persists. If you want me to get any more info just say.


          • #6
            a plug-ins list would still be useful. also one thing that might be something is do you have really large albumart embedded in the files (also what type of files being played could be useful) as large albumart can cause some slowdowns due to the extra processing needed to extract and load the image which may cause a bit of a delay with one file, but forcing multiple track advances quickly could exacerbate that.

            though that shouldn't be causing a full machine lockup - so could be something else which is running on the machine and trying to interact with Winamp that you don't know and might cause it - just not sure of what that could be as you've a decent spec machine (if it was a single core then i could possibly understand it, not with a multi-core as much).

            WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog


            • #7
              Installed Winamp plug-in list
              Generated by 'One for Nunz v5.1' on 7/6/2011 at 1:48:24 AM

              << Winamp Information >>

              Winamp.ini path is: C:\Users\Josh\AppData\Roaming\Winamp\Winamp.ini
              Plug-in directory is: C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\Plugins
              Visualisation directory is: C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\Plugins
              DSP directory is: C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\Plugins
              Skin directory is: C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\Skins
              Language Pack directory is: C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\Lang

              Using Winamp version: 5.62 (Build 3161 FINAL_2011_0630_175932)
              Winamp Elevator build: Build 3161 FINAL_2011_0630_175932

              Current skin: Winamp base skin (Classic skin)
              Sonic Burning Engine is not installed

              << OS Information >>

              Running on: Windows 7 (Service Pack 1)
              Memory available: 7.75 GB

              << Input plug-ins >>

              Nullsoft CD Plug-in (MusicID 2.6) v3.92 [in_cdda.dll]
              Nullsoft FLAC Decoder v2.4 [in_flac.dll]
              Nullsoft MIDI Player v3.3 [in_midi.dll]
              Nullsoft Module Decoder v2.86 [in_mod.dll]
              Nullsoft MPEG Audio Decoder v4.96 [in_mp3.dll]
              Nullsoft MP4 Demuxer v2.4 [in_mp4.dll]
              Nullsoft Vorbis Decoder v1.59 [in_vorbis.dll]
              Nullsoft Waveform Decoder v3.19 [in_wave.dll]
              Nullsoft Windows Media Decoder v3.6 [in_wm.dll]

              << Output plug-ins >>

              Nullsoft Disk Writer v2.14 [out_disk.dll]
              Nullsoft DirectSound Output v2.6 (d) [out_ds.dll] [active]
              Nullsoft WaveOut Output v2.13 (d) [out_wave.dll]

              << Visualisation plug-ins >>

              Nullsoft Tiny Fullscreen v2.12 [vis_nsfs.dll]

              << DSP plug-ins >>

              No plug-ins of this type are installed

              << General Purpose plug-ins >>

              Nullsoft Global Hotkeys v1.9 [gen_hotkeys.dll]
              Jump To File Extra v1.2.3 (Build 1151) [gen_jumpex.dll]
              One for Nunz v5.1 [gen_nunzio.dll]
              Nullsoft Tray Control v2.41 [gen_tray.dll]

              << Encoder plug-ins >>

              No plug-ins of this type are installed

              << Summary of system components (*.w5s) >>
              (These are not included in the plug-in counts below)
              aacdec.w5s (1064kb)
              albumart.w5s (22kb)
              bmp.w5s (19kb)
              dlmgr.w5s (16kb)
              gif.w5s (19kb)
              gracenote.w5s (16kb)
              jnetlib.w5s (609kb)
              jpeg.w5s (151kb)
              playlist.w5s (82kb)
              png.w5s (101kb)
              tagz.w5s (21kb)
              vlb.w5s (121kb)
              xml.w5s (88kb)

              << Summary of all dlls in the root winamp folder (*.dll) >>
              (These are not included in the plug-in counts below)
              elevatorps.dll (45kb) [not loaded]
              libFLAC.dll (133kb) [not loaded]
              libmp4v2.dll (176kb) [not loaded]
              libsndfile.dll (247kb) [loaded]
              nde.dll (77kb) [loaded]
              nsutil.dll (401kb) [loaded]
              tataki.dll (82kb) [not loaded]
              zlib.dll (46kb) [loaded]

              << Summary of all dlls in the plugins\gracenote folder (*.dll) >>
              (These are not included in the plug-in counts below)
              CDDBControlWinamp.dll (1577kb) [not loaded]
              CDDBUIWinamp.dll (1017kb) [not loaded]

              << Summary of installed plug-ins >>

              9 Input plug-ins installed
              3 Output plug-ins installed
              1 Visualisation plug-in installed
              0 DSP plug-in installed
              4 General Purpose plug-ins installed
              0 Media Library plug-in installed
              0 Encoder plug-in installed

              Total: 17 plug-ins installed


              Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.4
              Scan saved at 1:49:53 AM, on 7/6/2011
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              C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Realtime Soft\RTSHookInterop\x32\RTSHookInterop.exe
              C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\Winamp.exe
              C:\Program Files (x86)\Trend Micro\HiJackThis\HiJackThis.exe

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              O23 - Service: AMD FUEL Service - Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. - C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Fuel\Fuel.Service.exe
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              O23 - Service: Bonjour Service - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exe
              O23 - Service: Device Handle Service - ASUSTeK Computer Inc. - C:\Windows\SysWOW64\AsHookDevice.exe
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              O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\fxsresm.dll,-118 (Fax) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\fxssvc.exe (file missing)
              O23 - Service: @keyiso.dll,-100 (KeyIso) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
              O23 - Service: @comres.dll,-2797 (MSDTC) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\msdtc.exe (file missing)
              O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\System32\netlogon.dll,-102 (Netlogon) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
              O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\psbase.dll,-300 (ProtectedStorage) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
              O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\Locator.exe,-2 (RpcLocator) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\locator.exe (file missing)
              O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\samsrv.dll,-1 (SamSs) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
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              Yeah... lol not much on HiJackthis... I have no idea why it would do this just from a simple install. The RazorHID is new I just got it today so it has nothing to do with the problem.


              • #8
                I'm going to join in on this thread because I'm having similar issues. Here's what I did:

                - Did a clean install (this is version 5.581, yes I know it's slightly outdated)
                - Stripped the program of every single plugin except in_mp3 and out_wave
                - Set prebuffer size to minimum in out_wave, disabled tag loading in in_mp3
                - Disabled playlist item formatting, set loading metadata to "Load on startup" rather than "Load on play"

                I then load a playlist with ~10 mp3s in it, and press Forward about 6 times. My entire computer halts for 30 seconds as it tries to skip ahead 6 songs.
                The worst is when the playlist is full of files that are either very short (.wav files less than 3 seconds each) or files that no longer exist. Usually it halts to the point that I have to restart.

                The only solution I've found so far is to downgrade to winamp 2.91.

                e: relevant system specs-
                Winamp 5.581
                SB Audigy
                AMD Athlon X4 3.3ghz
                Win 7 Pro x64 sp1


                • #9
                  sorry but bug reports against old versions cannot really be used as only the current version at the time is the one which gets support of any sort (which is 5.62 at the time of this post).

                  though halting the system if the files are missing points more at what the files were located on... possibly a network drive? or maybe an A/V is running and that's causing the issue as Winamp relies on OS apis to determine missing files so if that's taking an age then there's not much Winamp can do.

                  and the short wav thing is mainly related to the output plug-ins buffer size - setting that to a lower value has been known to fix that quirk for some users.

                  WACUP Project <‖> "Winamp Ramblings" - Indie Winamp Dev Blog


                  • #10
                    Well, I found the problem. I tried clean installs of both 5.581 and 5.62 into a Win 7 VM - neither of them had any slowdown. Okay, so it's something with my environment. I turned off AVG and whatever services looked like they might be scanning files in realtime. The problem was solved (naturally, I should have checked this first) when I turned off "VIA HD Audio Deck" (the onboard audio tray icon/control panel). That was causing the lag for some reason, even though I had disabled that interface because I'm using a separate Audigy card.

                    Afroman, I see that VDeck is listed on your process list as well. I think that's what's causing the issue for you. I don't remember what happens to the onboard sound when you disable the control panel, but you could try closing the tray icon before you open Winamp.


                    • #11
                      Ok so I got a computer identical to mine but it's brand new. Put Winamp and Chrome in first thing. VIA HD Audio does not seem to be the problem so that eliminates that. I'll continue installing program by program testing this until I get the slow down and let you all know how this turns out.

                      Thank you all for your help but I guess if anyone runs into this problem I can let them know what's causing it.

                      As soon as I said that and put VIA HD Audio in Expert Mode it goes all funny. Gonna run more tests on this.

                      Ok tests have shown that it works fine in regular mode but expert mode it goes to garbage. Odd...

                      Looks like dogan2 wins... it's just VIA HD Audio all together now lol.