Replaygain help

[jason69uk]

Reffering to this guide:

http://blog.winamp.com/2009/08/24/automatic-volume-leveling-in-winamp-with-replay-gain/1#comments

Hi im actually struggling with this a bit....

After loading up a playlist of FLAC files and selecting all of them in my playlist, going to send to then 'Calculate replay gain' instead of putting all the songs in one 'Replay Gain Results' box it puts up 21 boxes with each song inside unlike the image on the tutorial which adds all songs to that one dialog box.

So how do i make all songs get applied in one go?

Thank you.

[Aminifu]

Hi jason69uk,

I get all the RG analysis results in a single box for the selected files. Are you using the latest WA version 5.623? What are your settings in the WA preferences for RG?

Winamp > Prefs (Ctrl+P) > Playback > Replay Gain tab:
Checkmark: Ask after all files are scanned

[MrSinatra]

Do you have album tags? Same album or no? Other tags, like album artist, are what?

[Aminifu]

Do you have album tags? Same album or no? Other tags, like album artist, are what?

No tags need to be present if you just want to use RG for track mode analysis. The album tag (as a minimum) is needed to have RG calculate the adjustment values for album and track modes.

[MrSinatra]

No tags need to be present if you just want to use RG for track mode analysis. The album tag (as a minimum) is needed to have RG calculate the adjustment values for album and track modes.

i know that, i just said it to you:

http://forums.winamp.com/showpost.php?p=2865483&postcount=5

i was asking him that b/c i have seen what he is talking about. it happened to me, but i forget now why, it was some time ago, but i seem to recall it had something to do with my tags (or lack of them). obviously u have to be in manual mode as well.

it could also have something to do with doing it from a playlist as opposed to ML. just trying to recreate in my mind how it happened to me.

[Aminifu]

i know that, i just said it to you:

Ok, I misunderstood some of what you wrote then and you said "(and maybe some combo of other tags depending of different factors)". My response then, driven by my confusion, confused you.

Anyway maybe things have changed over time. For flac files, the only tag needed now is the album tag to have RG calculate album and track values.

As for having all results show up in 1 box, the current version of WA only needs that option (mentioned in my earlier post #2) enabled.

By the way, some moderator seems to be helping me.

I did not write those last 2 lines in that post. I ended by asking the OP what his settings are. This is the 2nd time someone has anonymously edited a post of mine.

[jason69uk]

Hey people

So sorry for my late reply!

Just checked here.

ok so yes they are FLACs.

The thing is theyre downloads of individual songs from different albums which i have used to make up my own album which i cant find on the internet.

So ive made an album from songs off other albums.

would that be the reason why each song is coming up in different dialogue boxes?

It just seems that..... the fact it's doing that means i have to individually apply gain to each dialogue box (track) seems crazy!

Let me know.

Thanks guys

Btw yes im using latest ver 5.632

Thanks

[Aminifu]

would that be the reason why each song is coming up in different dialogue boxes?

No, that should not be the reason. Have you checked the option mentioned in post #2 above?

[jason69uk]

Reffering to this guide:

http://blog.winamp.com/2009/08/24/automatic-volume-leveling-in-winamp-with-replay-gain/1#comments

Hi im actually struggling with this a bit....

After loading up a playlist of FLAC files and selecting all of them in my playlist, going to send to then 'Calculate replay gain' instead of putting all the songs in one 'Replay Gain Results' box it puts up 21 boxes with each song inside unlike the image on the tutorial which adds all songs to that one dialog box.

So how do i make all songs get applied in one go?

Thank you.

Ah thats done the trick!

Thank you very much indeed.

Just another question as theyre all from different albums do i 'save as album' or 'save as track'?

Also ive messed about with the 'adjustment for files without replay gain' setting and cant find the default db settings now!

What are everyones default db settings?

Thanks again to those who replied!

[Aminifu]

Just another question as theyre all from different albums do i 'save as album' or 'save as track'?

Also ive messed about with the 'adjustment for files without replay gain' setting and cant find the default db settings now!

I would save as track, since they are not really from the same album. Sometimes songs on the same album are meant to have different volume levels. Using RG album mode maintains these relative differences while adjusting the overall volume level for the album.

But saving album gain values does not mean you have to use them. It also depends on what option you have set for "Preferred source" on that same RG options page. If you have it set for album and don't save the album gain values then RG will ignore the track values you saved (if you also selected the option to 'Disable if preferred source is not available'). If you 'save as album' then both the album and track values are saved. Then the "Preferred source" can be set to album or track and both would work.

If you want to 'create' an album, then all the album tags in the selected tracks should have the same thing (made up name) in them.

The default level for 'adjustment for files without replay gain' is -6db.

[jason69uk]

I would save as track, since they are not really from the same album. Sometimes songs on the same album are meant to have different volume levels. Using RG album mode maintains these relative differences while adjusting the overall volume level for the album.

But saving album gain values does not mean you have to use them. It also depends on what option you have set for "Preferred source" on that same RG options page. If you have it set for album and don't save the album gain values then RG will ignore the track values you saved (if you also selected the option to 'Disable if preferred source is not available'). If you 'save as album' then both the album and track values are saved. Then the "Preferred source" can be set to album or track and both would work.

If you want to 'create' an album, then all the album tags in the selected tracks should have the same thing (made up name) in them.

The default level for 'adjustment for files without replay gain' is -6db.

Thank you very much.

What i have done is highlighted them all and done 'Save track data'

Have a look at my settings box here:



Are these good settings to keep for what i mentioned? ('Save track data')

Thanks very much again!

[Aminifu]

Hi jason69uk,

Why have you set the preamp to +3.8 db? This option will increase the overall volume before the RG volume controls are applied. Too much preamp gain along with RG could cause clipping. Clipping could cause distortion of some frequencies. I would return it to 0 db and increase the main player's volume control and/or your sound device's volume control if the music seems too low.

[jason69uk]

Hi ok no problem just done!

Thanks.

Apart form that are all settings ok and what you would choose for 'Save track data' option?

[Aminifu]

You're good to go. There's nothing left to do, all the other settings are good.

Don't know what you mean by "what you would choose for 'Save track data' option?". I discussed that in post # 10.

You can use the WA tag editor if you want to check that the RG values were indeed saved in the files. Select a file in the playlist editor and press ALT+3. The RG values should be shown on the lower right side of the first tab in the editor. Use the cancel button to exit the editor without changing anything. Using the ok button will resave the tag values that you see.

[jason69uk]

Ok i got it thanks very much ill save what u said to remind me if i forget this in a few years! haha.

Also... can u recommend me a bit of software which enables me to reencode a FLAC or WAV album i made up of many different songs (all at different volumes) to be encoded all to a certain decibel so they all play at the same volume with whatever i use to play them for example a car stereo which doesnt support replaygain?

Cheers