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  • Move X close button more to the right

    Right now if you have the Winamp at the top and touching right edge of the screen, if you go with mouse pointer to the very right side and top side [point exactly at the corner], you are not really selecting the "X" button- you have to move it back a little to the left

    I often close [especially when resetting system] software by just making a one smooth move to that corner and just clicking multiple times, without looking. Unfortunately, with Winamp [which sometimes I close and reopen multiple times during one session] I can't just sweep with the mouse on a table to the right and upward- I have to aim at that "X" close caption

  • #2
    Good point, it may be easily fixable on this case*, but as you mention I think it's a common behaviour encouraged by Windows UI, so it makes sense if Winamp could follow that rule too (maybe next versions?).

    *Let me see if I can prepare you a couple of files for a temporary fix.. You're using Bento skin no?
    · · Big Bento Modern

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    • #3
      Mmm... what skin are you using? I've just tried that on Bento and Big Bentoand it works like it should. I guessed it didn't worked 'cause I remembered the look of it -the x is not near the edge- but the button area DOES extend to both edges, top and right.. so, what skin are you using?
      · · Big Bento Modern

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      • #4
        Originally Posted by Victhor View Post
        Mmm... what skin are you using? I've just tried that on Bento and Big Bentoand it works like it should. I guessed it didn't worked 'cause I remembered the look of it -the x is not near the edge- but the button area DOES extende to both edges, top and right.. so, what skin are you using?
        Originally Posted by Victhor View Post
        Mmm... what skin are you using? I've just tried that on Bento and Big Bentoand it works like it should. I guessed it didn't worked 'cause I remembered the look of it -the x is not near the edge- but the button area DOES extende to both edges, top and right.. so, what skin are you using?
        Windows 7 x64

        Winamp 5.666

        Bento 1.2.1


        The "X" is something like 5 pixels below the top edge and around 10 pixels away from the right edge

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        • #5
          Here is a screenshot showing how it looks on my 21:9 screen https://pichoster.net/images/2017/03...bb8cc46f29.jpg

          Please note that there is this black vertical space, but not only on the right, but also on the left side. It is 3 pixels wide on the right and 1 pixel wide on the left; and does not show up with other software [you can see in this image that the webrowser utilizes all the space, going horizontally beyond Winamp]

          [I had the same problem on the 16:9 monitor, with the exact black pixels at the sides]

          This black space adds to the problem, but it is probably not the main issue. Because there is still around 5 pixels of space between the "X" and that black area, where clicking does not close the Winamp [the "X" ion does not light up when I hoover there- I have to move the pointer further to the left]

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          • #6
            Hi Worez,

            I don't object to your request to move the 'close trigger area' more to the right (just not all the way to the edge). Most Windows apps use all 4 of their corners (whether borders are used or not) to trigger the window resizing control which lets you resize the app's window vertically and horizontally at the same time. Usually it only takes pointing to a window's edge close to a corner. I think this is the behavior that Microsoft suggests. What bugs me is that Winamp only allows pointing close to the lower right corner to trigger this resizing control.
            Winamp v5.9.2.10042 - Quinto Black CT v3.9 skin
            Windows 11 Home 64-bit v22H2 desktop - Logitech Z906 5.1 speaker system

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            • #7
              Dumb me.. I didn't catch you were talking about the shade mode.. the current behaviour is due to those pixels reserved for the resize function (otherwise there would be no way to shrink down after maximize).

              One possible fix is to move the resizer space to the left side and leave the right corner for closing.. let me try it..
              · · Big Bento Modern

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              • #8
                Originally Posted by Victhor View Post
                ...

                One possible fix is to move the resizer space to the left side and leave the right corner for closing.. let me try it..
                That sounds reasonable.

                If it is possible will you add it to the update list for Komodo X.

                If it is also possible to add access to the vertical & horizontal resizing control to the left side corners, that would be appreciated too. The single point of access to this control is a nuisance, but it's better than only being able to use the vertical resizing control followed by the horizontal resizing control, or vice versa. So if access to the vertical & horizontal resizing control has to stay where it is, that's better than nothing.
                Winamp v5.9.2.10042 - Quinto Black CT v3.9 skin
                Windows 11 Home 64-bit v22H2 desktop - Logitech Z906 5.1 speaker system

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                • #9
                  I do not think I understand completely those last there posts

                  Originally Posted by Victhor View Post
                  Dumb me.. I didn't catch you were talking about the shade mode..
                  What shade mode?

                  [Dumb me?]

                  Originally Posted by Victhor View Post
                  the current behaviour is due to those pixels reserved for the resize function (otherwise there would be no way to shrink down after maximize)[...]
                  What does the user need this space for if the Winamp is in the form of a docked ticket bar? If I click the maximize button, my ticket bar is just moved down, leaving empty space at the top [with a height equal to the size of ticket bar]. The same thing happens when it expanded to the "normal" [classical] form- I click "maximize" and an empty space shows up at the top [big as Winamp itself]


                  I do not have such issues with any other software; and I use a lot of big and small: each is possible to be closed, when it is maximized, by moving the pointer to the right upper corner and clicking it without any sort of aiming

                  So just why did Winamp got such user unfriendly behavior?

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                  • #10
                    Originally Posted by Worez View Post
                    What shade mode?
                    Shade mode (official name) = Docked ticket bar (how you call it)

                    Originally Posted by Worez View Post
                    So just why did Winamp got such user unfriendly behavior?
                    I think this is due to WinXP standard, "docked bars" were cool and when Winamp introduce it followed what was usual then (sort of a "content centered as much as possible"). Sort of what I think that happened..

                    Anyway, you can try the attached Big Bento version I've prepared for you, it has a resizer on the left side, and the close button has a "ghost" button behind which extends to the far right. That should fix it for the time being..


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                    Originally Posted by Aminifu View Post
                    If it is possible will you add it to the update list for Komodo X.


                    Originally Posted by Aminifu View Post
                    If it is also possible to add access to the vertical & horizontal resizing control to the left side corners, that would be appreciated too.
                    XD
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                    · · Big Bento Modern

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                    • #11
                      Originally Posted by Victhor View Post
                      [...]
                      Anyway, you can try the attached Big Bento version I've prepared for you, it has a resizer on the left side, and the close button has a "ghost" button behind which extends to the far right. That should fix it for the time being..
                      Thank you

                      This works- almost. Because the area is indeed extended to the far right. But the pointer has to be visible- I must click over the very first pixels that are on the right side [or those further to the left]. While with other software the pointer can be off the screen, which is apparently counted as being at the edge of it

                      So with your solution I still have to, after making a blunt move to the upper right corner, move it back to the left [although this time much less]. So Winamp works better now, but that problem has not been eliminated

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                      • #12
                        Mmm.... I miss something. Try this one, it adds 2 or 3 pixels more.
                        As far as I can see, it works fine, only when using Auto-dock Winamp leaves a blank space at the right top corner (which doesn't even point to Winamp itself so is impossible to make it use the extended close button..).
                        Attached Files
                        · · Big Bento Modern

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                        • #13
                          Originally Posted by Victhor View Post
                          Mmm.... I miss something. Try this one, it adds 2 or 3 pixels more.
                          [...]
                          It seems to work A-OK

                          But:

                          A] Can you also make such adjustment for the Main Mode?

                          B] How can I import my settings from my old Big Bento after switching to this modified one?

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                          • #14
                            Originally Posted by Worez View Post
                            A] Can you also make such adjustment for the Main Mode?
                            I was 99% sure you were gonna ask about this one.. heh. I'll post it here later.

                            Originally Posted by Worez View Post
                            A] B] How can I import my settings from my old Big Bento after switching to this modified one?
                            It'll be easier to import MY modded files into your Big Bento skin, I'll tell you how tomorrow. See you.
                            · · Big Bento Modern

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                            • #15
                              Correction: the adjustment is not needed on Main mode, it actually works like it's supposed to (that's the reason of my second response here). You need to use the Maximize button, not manually expanding the player.

                              To import my mod on your current Big Bento;
                              - Rename my original file ("Big Bento - Extended shade Close button v2.wal") from .wal file to .zip
                              - Unzip it into a new folder.
                              - Copy the file "player-shade.xml" inside "xml" folder.
                              - Go to your Big Bento skin folder (usually C://Program files/Winamp/Skins/Big Bento).
                              - Then to "xml" folder, rename the original "player-shade.xml" into something else (optional, just to not loose the original) and paste the modded one you previously copied.
                              - Close and re-open Winamp or refresh it hitting F5.
                              - Done.
                              · · Big Bento Modern

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